20090106T192359: *: <== :oosp!n=mark@82-71-60-81.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090106T194127: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090106T194239: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Happy new year everybody! 20090106T194239: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Happy new year everybody! 20090106T205111: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090106T205134: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :greetings earthlings! 20090106T205134: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: greetings earthlings! 20090106T205152: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Happy new year, oh messenger from another star. 20090106T205152: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Happy new year, oh messenger from another star. 20090106T205156: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :can anybody tell me if it is possible to see the log of this channel? 20090106T205156: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: can anybody tell me if it is possible to see the log of this channel? 20090106T205209: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :shinybot: help 20090106T205209: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I'm logging messages for the archive at http://pacific.mpi-cbg.de/cgi-bin/fiji-irc 20090106T205236: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Hi gitte, happy new year! Thanks for the tip 20090106T205236: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Hi gitte, happy new year! Thanks for the tip 20090106T205242: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :;-) 20090106T205242: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: ;-) 20090106T205713: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :gitte: did you see my question to the list the other day about matched filters? 20090106T205713: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: gitte: did you see my question to the list the other day about matched filters? 20090106T205905: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :gl_: I still have about 500 unread mails in my inbox :-( 20090106T205905: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: gl_: I still have about 500 unread mails in my inbox :-( 20090106T205911: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :woha! 20090106T205911: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: woha! 20090106T205914: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Maybe you want to quickly restate the question here? 20090106T205914: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Maybe you want to quickly restate the question here? 20090106T205922: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :OK wait 20090106T205922: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: OK wait 20090106T210010: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Ah, is it "Two dimensional matched filters"? 20090106T210010: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Ah, is it "Two dimensional matched filters"? 20090106T210350: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yes, yes 20090106T210350: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: yes, yes 20090106T210408: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I downloaded the paper, but could you quickly paraphrase the idea? 20090106T210408: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: I downloaded the paper, but could you quickly paraphrase the idea? 20090106T210409: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I was looking for the message in the list archive.. 20090106T210409: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I was looking for the message in the list archive.. 20090106T210423: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yes, it is a a filter with direction 20090106T210423: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: yes, it is a a filter with direction 20090106T210434: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :one creates 12 or so filters 20090106T210434: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: one creates 12 or so filters 20090106T210441: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :then keep the highest output 20090106T210441: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: then keep the highest output 20090106T210456: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :so you can find linear features 20090106T210456: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: so you can find linear features 20090106T210505: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :blood vesses, plant roots 20090106T210505: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: blood vesses, plant roots 20090106T210508: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :neurons 20090106T210508: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: neurons 20090106T210513: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :road 20090106T210513: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: road 20090106T210514: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :s 20090106T210514: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: s 20090106T210520: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :http://mid.gmane.org/200901041412.28974.G.Landini@bham.ac.uk 20090106T210520: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: http://mid.gmane.org/200901041412.28974.G.Landini@bham.ac.uk 20090106T210536: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Hmm. 20090106T210536: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Hmm. 20090106T210602: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I am still looking for the perfect linear filter, but I cannot bring myself to believe that a discrete number of rotations is the answer. 20090106T210602: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: I am still looking for the perfect linear filter, but I cannot bring myself to believe that a discrete number of rotations is the answer. 20090106T210628: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It is like a LoG or mexican hat but with directionality 20090106T210628: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: It is like a LoG or mexican hat but with directionality 20090106T210643: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Do you think it would be useful? 20090106T210643: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Do you think it would be useful? 20090106T210646: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yes 20090106T210646: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Yes 20090106T210652: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Hmpf. 20090106T210652: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Hmpf. 20090106T210716: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Can you remind me tomorrow afternoon? I should have a little time to study the paper then, and maybe implement the algorithm. 20090106T210716: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Can you remind me tomorrow afternoon? I should have a little time to study the paper then, and maybe implement the algorithm. 20090106T210803: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Sure. The paper has the 2 equations, one gives the main filter, the other is the rotation 20090106T210803: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Sure. The paper has the 2 equations, one gives the main filter, the other is the rotation 20090106T210815: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I do not understand how this is rotated. 20090106T210815: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I do not understand how this is rotated. 20090106T210835: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I suppose that one can make one kernel, make an image of it and rotate it 20090106T210835: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I suppose that one can make one kernel, make an image of it and rotate it 20090106T210840: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :but that is not elegant 20090106T210840: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: but that is not elegant 20090106T210850: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :and does not let you resize the filter, etc 20090106T210850: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: and does not let you resize the filter, etc 20090106T210945: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :gl_: I think that they calculate the kernels for a given size, with 12 different angles (probably something like k * Math.PI / 12 for k = 0, ..., 11) 20090106T210945: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: gl_: I think that they calculate the kernels for a given size, with 12 different angles (probably something like k * Math.PI / 12 for k = 0, ..., 11) 20090106T211006: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Then they convolve the image, and then for each pixel they take the maximal value of all 12 convolutions. 20090106T211006: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Then they convolve the image, and then for each pixel they take the maximal value of all 12 convolutions. 20090106T211009: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :probably, I did not get it 20090106T211009: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: probably, I did not get it 20090106T211016: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yes 20090106T211016: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: yes 20090106T211018: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :That's how I'd do it from the idea I get yet. 20090106T211018: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: That's how I'd do it from the idea I get yet. 20090106T211050: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :so one convolves the same original with 12 filters, make a stack and keep the maximum projection 20090106T211050: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: so one convolves the same original with 12 filters, make a stack and keep the maximum projection 20090106T211123: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Right. 20090106T211123: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: Right. 20090106T211203: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :(Except to reduce the space complexity, they apply the 12 convolutions per pixel and then already throw away all the non-maximal values, it appears from a further glance at the paper) 20090106T211203: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: (Except to reduce the space complexity, they apply the 12 convolutions per pixel and then already throw away all the non-maximal values, it appears from a further glance at the paper) 20090106T211325: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But you should be able to get exactly the same effect, albeit with higher memory requirements, with a pretty simple macro that _does_ rotate the kernel 11 times. 20090106T211325: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: But you should be able to get exactly the same effect, albeit with higher memory requirements, with a pretty simple macro that _does_ rotate the kernel 11 times. 20090106T211339: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :The kernel should be easy to compute using a macro, too... 20090106T211339: gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de: The kernel should be easy to compute using a macro, too... 20090106T211339: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yes that was the idea 20090106T211339: gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: yes that was the idea 20090106T221713: *: <== :gl_!n=gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 20090106T222422: *: <== :gitte!n=gene099@pD9EB2883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Remote closed the connection 20090106T225416: *: <== :leafw!n=cardona@pacific.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :happy new year log readers! 20090106T225416: leafw!n=cardona@pacific.mpi-cbg.de: happy new year log readers!