20090219T051906: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20090219T085617: *: <== :oosp!n=mark@82-71-60-81.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk QUIT :Remote closed the connection 20090219T103540: *: <== :oosp!n=mark@82-71-60-81.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T103635: *: <== :oosp!n=mark@82-71-60-81.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk QUIT :Client Quit 20090219T111808: *: <== :oosp!n=oosp@wiggle.inf.ed.ac.uk JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T135427: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T145807: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T185709: *: <== :oosp!n=oosp@wiggle.inf.ed.ac.uk QUIT :"Leaving" 20090219T201032: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20090219T204358: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T212541: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T213812: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk QUIT :Remote closed the connection 20090219T213856: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#fiji-devel 20090219T222608: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: are you there? 20090219T222608: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: ctrueden: are you there? 20090219T222812: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :_gl: Yes. 20090219T222812: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: _gl: Yes. 20090219T222848: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :_gl_: Oops, missed the trailing underscore. 20090219T222848: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: _gl_: Oops, missed the trailing underscore. 20090219T222906: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :What's up? 20090219T222906: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: What's up? 20090219T222907: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Hi, can you explain this thing? if I define a new Vector, do I have to include the 20090219T222907: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Hi, can you explain this thing? if I define a new Vector, do I have to include the 20090219T222909: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :? 20090219T222909: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: ? 20090219T222920: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Vector vx = new Vector(); 20090219T222920: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Vector vx = new Vector(); 20090219T222932: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yes, if you are using Java 1.5 or higher, you can write that. 20090219T222932: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: Yes, if you are using Java 1.5 or higher, you can write that. 20090219T222936: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :If I do not, I get a java warning, 20090219T222936: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: If I do not, I get a java warning, 20090219T222945: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Right, about unsafe typing. 20090219T222945: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: Right, about unsafe typing. 20090219T222958: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Oh, I see, thanks 20090219T222958: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Oh, I see, thanks 20090219T223005: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :As long as your target deployment is to Java 1.5+, or you use Retroweaver, you can do that. 20090219T223005: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: As long as your target deployment is to Java 1.5+, or you use Retroweaver, you can do that. 20090219T223011: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Otherwise, you can write: 20090219T223011: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: Otherwise, you can write: 20090219T223016: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Vector vx = new Vector(); 20090219T223016: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: Vector vx = new Vector(); 20090219T223037: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Then vx can contain any Object, but it's "unsafe" in that you have to cast things when you call vx.get(i). 20090219T223037: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: Then vx can contain any Object, but it's "unsafe" in that you have to cast things when you call vx.get(i). 20090219T223053: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I see. Wayne was looking at one of my plugins and took all the away. Not sure why 20090219T223053: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I see. Wayne was looking at one of my plugins and took all the away. Not sure why 20090219T223056: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :There is a command line flag to disable those warnings. 20090219T223056: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: There is a command line flag to disable those warnings. 20090219T223104: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yeah, he is trying to keep it compatible with Java 1.4. 20090219T223104: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: Yeah, he is trying to keep it compatible with Java 1.4. 20090219T223125: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Oh, I see. Yes, that makes sense, I will not include those then. 20090219T223125: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Oh, I see. Yes, that makes sense, I will not include those then. 20090219T223145: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :*shrug* Like I said, you can use this program called Retroweaver to work around it (I think fiji does), but it's not a big deal. 20090219T223145: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: *shrug* Like I said, you can use this program called Retroweaver to work around it (I think fiji does), but it's not a big deal. 20090219T223201: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :The main reason to stay with 1.4 is that Mac OS X 10.3 supports only Java 1.4. 20090219T223201: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: The main reason to stay with 1.4 is that Mac OS X 10.3 supports only Java 1.4. 20090219T223218: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I will take a look. Thank you. 20090219T223218: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I will take a look. Thank you. 20090219T223222: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :No problem. =) 20090219T223222: ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244: No problem. =) 20090219T223745: *: <== :ctrueden!n=ctrueden@144.92.48.244 QUIT : 20090219T230838: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :_gl_> Its still unclear to me why the non-stoichiometry antibody-antigen interaction is a problem for semi-quantification of IHC yet is overlooked in the case emulsion radiography. So I did some extra research and I stumbled upon an old work where known amounts of antigen are are estimated by densitometry of DAB and they could see a very linear relationship between that and O.D.. Would you care to take a critical look later? 20090219T230838: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: _gl_> Its still unclear to me why the non-stoichiometry antibody-antigen interaction is a problem for semi-quantification of IHC yet is overlooked in the case emulsion radiography. So I did some extra research and I stumbled upon an old work where known amounts of antigen are are estimated by densitometry of DAB and they could see a very linear relationship between that and O.D.. Would you care to take a critical look later? 20090219T230915: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :_gl_> the PMID is 8773563 20090219T230915: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: _gl_> the PMID is 8773563 20090219T230920: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Hi 20090219T230920: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: Hi 20090219T230957: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I will take a look, but what was posted the other day to the list was (at least to me) quite conclusive. 20090219T230957: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I will take a look, but what was posted the other day to the list was (at least to me) quite conclusive. 20090219T231105: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I was not aware that dab does not followed beers-lambert law, but it was interesting to know that on top of the problem of the marker itself, the chromogen also is problemativ 20090219T231105: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I was not aware that dab does not followed beers-lambert law, but it was interesting to know that on top of the problem of the marker itself, the chromogen also is problemativ 20090219T231113: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :problematic* 20090219T231113: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: problematic* 20090219T231345: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :_gl_> yes, not-withstanding, this group seemed to be able to find the "relative" amounts of antigen when comparing two experimental groups 20090219T231345: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: _gl_> yes, not-withstanding, this group seemed to be able to find the "relative" amounts of antigen when comparing two experimental groups 20090219T231504: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But the interesting thing is that they created a model of antigen concentration variation to see if the conclusions are really reliable 20090219T231504: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: But the interesting thing is that they created a model of antigen concentration variation to see if the conclusions are really reliable 20090219T231530: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :well, I don't want to spoil the reading. Its better explained there 20090219T231530: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: well, I don't want to spoil the reading. Its better explained there 20090219T231847: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I will look at it tomorrow (23:16 here) but I see that they used dab again... 20090219T231847: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: I will look at it tomorrow (23:16 here) but I see that they used dab again... 20090219T232037: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :_gl_> I know, its precisely because they used DAB that I'm asking you to criticize it. Sure, no need to hurry, thanks. 20090219T232037: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: _gl_> I know, its precisely because they used DAB that I'm asking you to criticize it. Sure, no need to hurry, thanks. 20090219T232158: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :good night 20090219T232158: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: good night 20090219T232204: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :The person who replied the other day (Al) has perhaps more experience. Why don't you ask him 20090219T232204: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: The person who replied the other day (Al) has perhaps more experience. Why don't you ask him 20090219T232209: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :good night! 20090219T232209: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: good night! 20090219T232214: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yes I will 20090219T232214: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: Yes I will 20090219T232219: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :good idea 20090219T232219: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: good idea 20090219T232225: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :boa noite! 20090219T232225: _gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk: boa noite! 20090219T232233: *: <== :mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :boa noite =] 20090219T232233: mercutio22!n=htorres@201-1-40-231.dsl.telesp.net.br: boa noite =] 20090219T232302: *: <== :_gl_!n=_gl_@82-37-235-199.cable.ubr06.smal.blueyonder.co.uk QUIT :Remote closed the connection