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MODE #fiji-devel +o dscho 20100723T094603: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: you there? 20100723T094603: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: you there? 20100723T094848: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: yes, hello 20100723T094848: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: oosp: yes, hello 20100723T094901: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :What is different in your local batik.jar? 20100723T094901: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: What is different in your local batik.jar? 20100723T094916: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :(Sorry to dive right into the topic...) 20100723T094916: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: (Sorry to dive right into the topic...) 20100723T094934: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i'm not sure - git status is clean and i'm at fiji master 20100723T094934: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i'm not sure - git status is clean and i'm at fiji master 20100723T094950: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :In the Updater, what does "Show changes" say? 20100723T094950: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: In the Updater, what does "Show changes" say? 20100723T095100: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :a great deal: https://gist.github.com/b42a1a85d768fb254ecd 20100723T095100: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: a great deal: https://gist.github.com/b42a1a85d768fb254ecd 20100723T095152: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :That is bad. You compiled batik.jar from source, I assume. 20100723T095152: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: That is bad. You compiled batik.jar from source, I assume. 20100723T095200: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yeah, after a ./Build.sh clean 20100723T095201: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Build.sh in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/283ofc4 20100723T095201: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: yeah, after a ./Build.sh clean 20100723T095211: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And your batik submodule is not dirty, and at the committed stage. 20100723T095211: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: And your batik submodule is not dirty, and at the committed stage. 20100723T095216: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :correct 20100723T095216: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: correct 20100723T095218: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :s/stage/revision/ 20100723T095218: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: s/stage/revision/ 20100723T095225: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yes 20100723T095225: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: yes 20100723T095230: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Can you look at the bytecode differences? 20100723T095230: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Can you look at the bytecode differences? 20100723T095253: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :(awesome updater stuff, BTW :)) 20100723T095253: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: (awesome updater stuff, BTW :)) 20100723T095302: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I am not so worried about the "local files" that end in "/". 20100723T095302: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: I am not so worried about the "local files" that end in "/". 20100723T095304: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Thank you! 20100723T095304: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Thank you! 20100723T095341: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :https://gist.github.com/277d141bdd521e2ac743 20100723T095341: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: https://gist.github.com/277d141bdd521e2ac743 20100723T095356: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It is slightly unsettling that some services are missing from your local file, but the class differences are what worries me. 20100723T095356: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: It is slightly unsettling that some services are missing from your local file, but the class differences are what worries me. 20100723T095409: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Uh oh. 20100723T095409: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Uh oh. 20100723T095414: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :You compiled for Java 6, right? 20100723T095414: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: You compiled for Java 6, right? 20100723T095506: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i think it's just using the bundled java/linux-amd64 20100723T095506: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i think it's just using the bundled java/linux-amd64 20100723T095556: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :What I meant is: in batik/, the build targets Java 6. Not Java 5. 20100723T095556: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: What I meant is: in batik/, the build targets Java 6. Not Java 5. 20100723T095605: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Thus the differences in the class version. 20100723T095605: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Thus the differences in the class version. 20100723T095630: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :You should be able to verify what I say by running "./fiji tests/class_versions.py" 20100723T095631: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :tests/class_versions.py in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/2aadgbk 20100723T095631: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: You should be able to verify what I say by running "./fiji tests/class_versions.py" 20100723T095631: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oh, i see 20100723T095631: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: oh, i see 20100723T095748: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ok, so the batik ones do require java 1.6 20100723T095748: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: ok, so the batik ones do require java 1.6 20100723T095751: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :The missing line number table suggests to me that batik.jar was compiled without debugging information (or even with some "optimization") 20100723T095751: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: The missing line number table suggests to me that batik.jar was compiled without debugging information (or even with some "optimization") 20100723T095804: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Could you please just skip uploading batik.jar, then? 20100723T095804: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Could you please just skip uploading batik.jar, then? 20100723T095811: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :sure 20100723T095811: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: sure 20100723T095830: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i can't see anything in batik's build.xml that says it should target 1.5 20100723T095830: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i can't see anything in batik's build.xml that says it should target 1.5 20100723T095836: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :but maybe i've missed something 20100723T095836: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: but maybe i've missed something 20100723T095849: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Our FijiClassLoader will go out of its way to try to convert the .jar, but then a regular user would end up with a "locally modified" component, which is bad. 20100723T095849: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Our FijiClassLoader will go out of its way to try to convert the .jar, but then a regular user would end up with a "locally modified" component, which is bad. 20100723T095904: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ok, i'll skip batik then 20100723T095904: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: ok, i'll skip batik then 20100723T095918: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Umm. 20100723T095918: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Umm. 20100723T095940: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Did you compile batik.jar by hand, cd'ing to batik/ and running ant? 20100723T095940: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Did you compile batik.jar by hand, cd'ing to batik/ and running ant? 20100723T100043: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Ah, I see what is happening. 20100723T100043: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Ah, I see what is happening. 20100723T100118: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I used to compile batik.jar using Fake, but changed that in f35261a 20100723T100118: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: I used to compile batik.jar using Fake, but changed that in f35261a 20100723T100136: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :f35261a1 maybe? 20100723T100136: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: f35261a1 maybe? 20100723T100154: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Or f35261a1d6bc9cbe7dd7070bc03235b0c2a17988 shinybot? 20100723T100154: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :f35261a1d6bc9cbe7dd7070bc03235b0c2a17988 in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/39ytgtr 20100723T100154: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Or f35261a1d6bc9cbe7dd7070bc03235b0c2a17988 shinybot? 20100723T100244: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :no, it was just built by whatever Fake does 20100723T100244: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: no, it was just built by whatever Fake does 20100723T100313: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yes, I see that now. I changed the way Fake builds batik: it now uses ant. 20100723T100313: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Yes, I see that now. I changed the way Fake builds batik: it now uses ant. 20100723T100318: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :right 20100723T100318: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: right 20100723T100325: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But I never bothered to upload the result, and kept the original one. 20100723T100325: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: But I never bothered to upload the result, and kept the original one. 20100723T100550: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :batik's build.xml lacks optional setting of the tag's source and target versions. 20100723T100550: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: batik's build.xml lacks optional setting of the tag's source and target versions. 20100723T100615: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :So I fear that there might be no easy way to fix staged-plugins/batik.Fakefile 20100723T100615: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: So I fear that there might be no easy way to fix staged-plugins/batik.Fakefile 20100723T100723: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Oh, wait, maybe ant.build.javac.source does what I want. 20100723T100723: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Oh, wait, maybe ant.build.javac.source does what I want. 20100723T101318: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yes! 20100723T101318: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Yes! 20100723T101725: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: thanks: 7a9c0a36ae4c83e042f29d4f878bf2ea5e516bd6 20100723T101725: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :7a9c0a36ae4c83e042f29d4f878bf2ea5e516bd6 in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/37jt3ps 20100723T101725: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: thanks: 7a9c0a36ae4c83e042f29d4f878bf2ea5e516bd6 20100723T101856: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :nice :) 20100723T101856: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: nice :) 20100723T101915: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :very generous of you to say "noticed by" me when I think you did *all* of the noticing ;) 20100723T101915: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: very generous of you to say "noticed by" me when I think you did *all* of the noticing ;) 20100723T101925: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Heh. 20100723T101925: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Heh. 20100723T101929: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i have since found another tracer bug, so i'll do the upload later 20100723T101929: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i have since found another tracer bug, so i'll do the upload later 20100723T101932: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But you did notice that there was something wrong. 20100723T101932: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: But you did notice that there was something wrong. 20100723T101940: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Okay! 20100723T101940: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Okay! 20100723T102238: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: BTW I thought about that precompiled/ problem, and maybe the solution would be to make it a submodule that is automatically checked out as a shallow clone. 20100723T102238: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: BTW I thought about that precompiled/ problem, and maybe the solution would be to make it a submodule that is automatically checked out as a shallow clone. 20100723T102244: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: what do you think? 20100723T102244: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: what do you think? 20100723T102347: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :is it possible to specify in .gitmodules that it should be shallow cloned? 20100723T102347: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: is it possible to specify in .gitmodules that it should be shallow cloned? 20100723T102417: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :No. 20100723T102417: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: No. 20100723T102425: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Even if I suggested that earlier. 20100723T102425: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Even if I suggested that earlier. 20100723T102441: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But Build.sh could be made clever enough to do that. 20100723T102441: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Build.sh in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/283ofc4 20100723T102441: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: But Build.sh could be made clever enough to do that. 20100723T102448: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It does so for the java/ submodules. 20100723T102448: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: It does so for the java/ submodules. 20100723T102521: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :http://pacific.mpi-cbg.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=fiji.git;a=blob;f=Build.sh;h=9870c1a6f6f90480e2b5300f343919e42ce5ef11;hb=refs/heads/master#l60 20100723T102521: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Build.sh in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/283ofc4 20100723T102521: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: http://pacific.mpi-cbg.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=fiji.git;a=blob;f=Build.sh;h=9870c1a6f6f90480e2b5300f343919e42ce5ef11;hb=refs/heads/master#l60 20100723T102702: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :boo: ( 20100723T102702: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: boo: ( 20100723T102702: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :that sounds like a most useful feature 20100723T102702: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: that sounds like a most useful feature 20100723T103202: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Yes. 20100723T103202: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Yes. 20100723T103305: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i thought you'd dealt with all except the launchers by downloading the last-released version relevant submodules weren't checked out? 20100723T103305: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i thought you'd dealt with all except the launchers by downloading the last-released version relevant submodules weren't checked out? 20100723T103319: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Well, it does not help if both the guy who did the first implementation of the submodules (which he called "gitlinks" -- totally intuitive naming, as always in Git!) and the maintainer of Git do not _use_ submodules at all. That explains a lot about the sorry state of them. 20100723T103319: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Well, it does not help if both the guy who did the first implementation of the submodules (which he called "gitlinks" -- totally intuitive naming, as always in Git!) and the maintainer of Git do not _use_ submodules at all. That explains a lot about the sorry state of them. 20100723T103322: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :s/version/version when/ 20100723T103322: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: s/version/version when/ 20100723T103335: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :That was the original plan. 20100723T103335: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: That was the original plan. 20100723T103405: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But as you said that this requires a network, and you're right in that, I wanted to have something a little more robust. 20100723T103405: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: But as you said that this requires a network, and you're right in that, I wanted to have something a little more robust. 20100723T103436: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :well, eventually i relented to say that if it worked without a network if I had all the submodules checked out, that was OK 20100723T103436: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: well, eventually i relented to say that if it worked without a network if I had all the submodules checked out, that was OK 20100723T103452: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :but ideally i would like to be able to work without a network in any case 20100723T103452: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: but ideally i would like to be able to work without a network in any case 20100723T103501: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Me, too. 20100723T103501: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Me, too. 20100723T103536: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :do you know if there are any helpful precedents from other projects that have to do this? 20100723T103536: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: do you know if there are any helpful precedents from other projects that have to do this? 20100723T103551: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Initially, you need to clone, there is no way around that. And in the common case, you also need to run Build.sh once, to make sure that you checked out the appropriate java/ submodule. 20100723T103551: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Build.sh in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/283ofc4 20100723T103551: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Initially, you need to clone, there is no way around that. And in the common case, you also need to run Build.sh once, to make sure that you checked out the appropriate java/ submodule. 20100723T103638: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :So if we could make sure in Build.sh (at least in the first run, when you still have network connection), that it downloads the stuff which should have been in precompiled/, I think we're fine, no? 20100723T103638: *: ==> PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Build.sh in Gitweb: http://tinyurl.com/283ofc4 20100723T103638: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: So if we could make sure in Build.sh (at least in the first run, when you still have network connection), that it downloads the stuff which should have been in precompiled/, I think we're fine, no? 20100723T103710: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :There are a lot of sufferers from submodules. The common way is to reimplement them, as was done in the Android context with "repo". 20100723T103710: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: There are a lot of sufferers from submodules. The common way is to reimplement them, as was done in the Android context with "repo". 20100723T103759: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Interfaces,_frontends,_and_tools#repo 20100723T103759: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Interfaces,_frontends,_and_tools#repo 20100723T103847: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :There was a talk at the GitTogether '08 about maintaining large corpora of arts (images, etc) in submodules. 20100723T103847: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: There was a talk at the GitTogether '08 about maintaining large corpora of arts (images, etc) in submodules. 20100723T103906: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It was back then that everybody seemed to agree that both narrow and shallow clones are something important. 20100723T103906: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: It was back then that everybody seemed to agree that both narrow and shallow clones are something important. 20100723T103924: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :yeah 20100723T103924: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: yeah 20100723T103935: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i saw that Scott Chacon did some git-media scripts 20100723T103935: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i saw that Scott Chacon did some git-media scripts 20100723T103941: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But nothing concrete came out of it. Partly due to a certain reluctance to change things, partly due to lack of motivation in the maintainer (I don't need it, why should you). 20100723T103941: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: But nothing concrete came out of it. Partly due to a certain reluctance to change things, partly due to lack of motivation in the maintainer (I don't need it, why should you). 20100723T104003: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :and used that in a stackoverflow answer ;) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3161588/git-analog-to-hgs-bigfiles-extension/3164116#3164116 20100723T104003: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: and used that in a stackoverflow answer ;) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3161588/git-analog-to-hgs-bigfiles-extension/3164116#3164116 20100723T104004: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Oh, I missed that project! 20100723T104004: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Oh, I missed that project! 20100723T104132: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :lunch! 20100723T104132: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: lunch! 20100723T104154: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel ::) good point 20100723T104154: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: :) good point 20100723T104633: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :aaargh 20100723T104633: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: aaargh 20100723T104700: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :my bug is calling addActionListener() twice on the same component 20100723T104700: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: my bug is calling addActionListener() twice on the same component 20100723T104712: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :surprisingly which had very few symptoms 20100723T104712: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: surprisingly which had very few symptoms 20100723T110543: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: I've just uploaded those new versions - i hope that all went OK 20100723T110543: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: dscho: I've just uploaded those new versions - i hope that all went OK 20100723T111101: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i will be around for the rest of the afternoon, anyway, just in case something goes horribly wrong 20100723T111101: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i will be around for the rest of the afternoon, anyway, just in case something goes horribly wrong 20100723T112631: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: thanks! 20100723T112631: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: thanks! 20100723T121659: *: <== :chalkie666!~dan@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PART #fiji-devel 20100723T154822: *: <== :rubikcube_work!~rubikcube@134.76.218.177 NICK :ChargeFlux 20100723T154822: rubikcube_work# ChargeFlux 20100723T154854: *: <== :ChargeFlux!~rubikcube@134.76.218.177 NICK :rubikcube_work 20100723T154854: ChargeFlux# rubikcube_work 20100723T161046: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch QUIT :Quit: Leaving 20100723T164444: *: <== :rubikcube_work!~rubikcube@134.76.218.177 QUIT :Quit: rubikcube_work 20100723T191813: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection