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MODE #fiji-devel +o dscho 20101108T114613: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: please note that on Windows, it seems to be way easier to teach people to set an environment variable than to call _any_ program with command line options. 20101108T114613: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: please note that on Windows, it seems to be way easier to teach people to set an environment variable than to call _any_ program with command line options. 20101108T114724: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: in principle, I like the change, but I want to caution against doing it in a hurry, without a replacement for the functionality. 20101108T114724: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: in principle, I like the change, but I want to caution against doing it in a hurry, without a replacement for the functionality. 20101108T122839: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :perhaps allow FIJI_JAVA_HOME to override it? 20101108T122839: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: perhaps allow FIJI_JAVA_HOME to override it? 20101108T122853: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Don't we do that already? 20101108T122853: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Don't we do that already? 20101108T122906: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :brb 20101108T122906: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: brb 20101108T123036: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :that's done in the debian launcher and in the Fakefile, but the launcher doesn't consider FIJI_JAVA_HOME 20101108T123036: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: that's done in the debian launcher and in the Fakefile, but the launcher doesn't consider FIJI_JAVA_HOME 20101108T125957: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: so you are suggesting to handle FIJI_JAVA_HOME in fiji.c directly? 20101108T125957: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: so you are suggesting to handle FIJI_JAVA_HOME in fiji.c directly? 20101108T130101: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i think that would meet the requirement to still have an environment variable to control the JVM used without any collision with JAVA_HOME, wouldn't it? 20101108T130101: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i think that would meet the requirement to still have an environment variable to control the JVM used without any collision with JAVA_HOME, wouldn't it? 20101108T130203: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: the only problem is that there might be quite a few assumptions at least in the building as to the role of JAVA_HOME, and there might be the expectation that it is set correctly... 20101108T130203: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: the only problem is that there might be quite a few assumptions at least in the building as to the role of JAVA_HOME, and there might be the expectation that it is set correctly... 20101108T130315: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i meant that fiji.c would set JAVA_HOME from FIJI_JAVA_HOME if the latter is set in the environment 20101108T130315: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i meant that fiji.c would set JAVA_HOME from FIJI_JAVA_HOME if the latter is set in the environment 20101108T130426: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And otherwise unset JAVA_HOME? 20101108T130426: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: And otherwise unset JAVA_HOME? 20101108T130459: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: you see, I am worried about JAVA_HOME possibly set to the _wrong_ home, and Fiji or Fiji Build (or some plugin) picking up the wrong idea. 20101108T130459: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: you see, I am worried about JAVA_HOME possibly set to the _wrong_ home, and Fiji or Fiji Build (or some plugin) picking up the wrong idea. 20101108T130813: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :my idea is that fiji.c sets JAVA_HOME to point to Fiji's bundled JVM *except* when overridden by --java-home (and now potentially FIJI_JAVA_HOME) 20101108T130813: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: my idea is that fiji.c sets JAVA_HOME to point to Fiji's bundled JVM *except* when overridden by --java-home (and now potentially FIJI_JAVA_HOME) 20101108T130841: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :which was the behaviour before I made the change to pay attention to the environment's JAVA_HOME, IIRC 20101108T130841: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: which was the behaviour before I made the change to pay attention to the environment's JAVA_HOME, IIRC 20101108T131009: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oosp: problem is that we now go into the direction (also thanks to your efforts) to support native code better, and I have a hunch that we'll have to force JAVA_HOME to the correct locations. 20101108T131009: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: oosp: problem is that we now go into the direction (also thanks to your efforts) to support native code better, and I have a hunch that we'll have to force JAVA_HOME to the correct locations. 20101108T131016: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :s/ions/ion/ 20101108T131016: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: s/ions/ion/ 20101108T133533: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :well, in any case i'd like to release a new Bug_Submitter.jar with that change it should help with current JAVA_HOME problems anyway 20101108T133533: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: well, in any case i'd like to release a new Bug_Submitter.jar with that change it should help with current JAVA_HOME problems anyway 20101108T133541: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Sure. 20101108T133541: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: Sure. 20101108T133542: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :s/change/change -/ 20101108T133542: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: s/change/change -/ 20101108T164115: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :http://imagej.org/ 20101108T164115: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: http://imagej.org/ 20101108T165058: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :nice 20101108T165058: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: nice 20101108T165058: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel ::) 20101108T165058: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: :) 20101108T165116: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :i uploaded the trivial addition to Bug_Submitter.jar BTW 20101108T165116: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: i uploaded the trivial addition to Bug_Submitter.jar BTW 20101108T165119: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :see you tomorrrow 20101108T165119: oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch: see you tomorrrow 20101108T165124: *: <== :oosp!~mark@ini-firewall.uzh.ch QUIT :Quit: Leaving 20101108T165124: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :CU! 20101108T165124: dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de: CU! 20101108T165914: *: <== :dscho!~dscho@cbg-off-client.mpi-cbg.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection