20120203T000527: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu QUIT :Quit: dscho 20120203T055320: *: <== :joshmoore!~joshmoore@manz-590f01b8.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN #fiji-devel 20120203T082429: *: <== :rubikcube_work!~quassel@134.76.218.252 JOIN #fiji-devel 20120203T130747: *: <== :definer!b4b77dc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.183.125.195 JOIN #fiji-devel 20120203T130755: *: <== :definer!b4b77dc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.183.125.195 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Hi, I am modifying AnalyzeSkeleton to suit my need, and one of my needs is that I need to acquire current working directory in order to save a file for statistics purpose. What class or method do I need in order to get working directory of the opened image here? 20120203T130755: definer!b4b77dc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.183.125.195: Hi, I am modifying AnalyzeSkeleton to suit my need, and one of my needs is that I need to acquire current working directory in order to save a file for statistics purpose. What class or method do I need in order to get working directory of the opened image here? 20120203T142756: *: <== :definer!b4b77dc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.183.125.195 PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :To be more specific, the reason that I need the current working directory is that I want to save a file at the directory where the opened image is. I saw that the class FileInfo has directory string. From here, how can I acquire this object from any opened image window? 20120203T142756: definer!b4b77dc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.183.125.195: To be more specific, the reason that I need the current working directory is that I want to save a file at the directory where the opened image is. I saw that the class FileInfo has directory string. From here, how can I acquire this object from any opened image window? 20120203T161507: *: <== :definer!b4b77dc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.183.125.195 QUIT :Quit: Page closed 20120203T170605: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu JOIN #fiji-devel 20120203T173030: *: <== :rubikcube_work!~quassel@134.76.218.252 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds 20120203T201107: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu JOIN #fiji-devel 20120203T201107: *: <== :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #fiji-devel +o dscho 20120203T205002: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: whoa, my current Sync Windows turns all 5D into 3D stacks... :-( 20120203T205002: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: ctrueden: whoa, my current Sync Windows turns all 5D into 3D stacks... :-( 20120203T205019: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Win! 20120203T205019: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Win! 20120203T205047: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Nope. Lots of things broken with it. 20120203T205047: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Nope. Lots of things broken with it. 20120203T205216: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel : 20120203T205216: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: 20120203T205218: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Too bad... 20120203T205218: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Too bad... 20120203T205227: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Actually, it is not Sync Windows which does that. 20120203T205227: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Actually, it is not Sync Windows which does that. 20120203T205229: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It is IJ 1.46e. 20120203T205229: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: It is IJ 1.46e. 20120203T205238: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Bisecting will only bring me so far. 20120203T205238: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Bisecting will only bring me so far. 20120203T205255: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Because 1.46e is a large commit? 20120203T205255: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Because 1.46e is a large commit? 20120203T205303: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Because of the fine-grainedness of the IJ1 commits. 20120203T205303: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Because of the fine-grainedness of the IJ1 commits. 20120203T205317: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I don't know whether it is 1.46e that introduced the problem. 20120203T205317: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: I don't know whether it is 1.46e that introduced the problem. 20120203T205330: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Did you send that mail already, that I am working on it? 20120203T205330: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Did you send that mail already, that I am working on it? 20120203T205340: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I didn't send a mail yet. 20120203T205340: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: I didn't send a mail yet. 20120203T205358: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Would you mind sending a reply that I am taking a bit longer because I have to work around an issue with current IJ1? 20120203T205358: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Would you mind sending a reply that I am taking a bit longer because I have to work around an issue with current IJ1? 20120203T205417: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Sure, I will do so now. 20120203T205417: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Sure, I will do so now. 20120203T205549: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :So many breakages. 20120203T205549: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: So many breakages. 20120203T205643: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Mail sent. 20120203T205643: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Mail sent. 20120203T205737: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Thanks. Breakage was introduced with IJ 1.46d. 20120203T205737: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Thanks. Breakage was introduced with IJ 1.46d. 20120203T205816: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Lucky me, the diff has only 1400 lines. 20120203T205816: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Lucky me, the diff has only 1400 lines. 20120203T205948: *: <== :joshmoore!~joshmoore@manz-590f01b8.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. 20120203T213400: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :aha I see you guys are alive 20120203T213400: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: aha I see you guys are alive 20120203T213439: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: ctrueden: so did you see my earlier question w.r.t. what actually causes these misterious build failures? 20120203T213439: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: ctrueden: so did you see my earlier question w.r.t. what actually causes these misterious build failures? 20120203T213506: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: I didn't see it, no. Sorry, I am not too diligent about reading chatlogs from when I'm not in the room. 20120203T213506: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: I didn't see it, no. Sorry, I am not too diligent about reading chatlogs from when I'm not in the room. 20120203T213510: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I did notice the build failures. 20120203T213510: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: I did notice the build failures. 20120203T213527: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Honestly, I have enough on my hands just keeping the builds working on our own Jenkins, much less a second one. 20120203T213527: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Honestly, I have enough on my hands just keeping the builds working on our own Jenkins, much less a second one. 20120203T213538: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Not sure whether dscho investigated at all... 20120203T213538: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Not sure whether dscho investigated at all... 20120203T213540: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: I noticed that they got fixed after awhile 20120203T213540: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: ctrueden: I noticed that they got fixed after awhile 20120203T213547: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I guess dscho fixed them then. 20120203T213547: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: I guess dscho fixed them then. 20120203T213604: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: so I was wondering whether they did so on their own or used some help of yours 20120203T213604: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: ctrueden: so I was wondering whether they did so on their own or used some help of yours 20120203T213758: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :the reason why I was so intrigued is that there is a pattern of full builds failing from time to time, where the builds against pre-compiled jars succeed 20120203T213758: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: the reason why I was so intrigued is that there is a pattern of full builds failing from time to time, where the builds against pre-compiled jars succeed 20120203T213934: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: dscho says there was a real bug involving Maven artifact naming, that caused the build to fail on your Jenkins but not ours (due to the fact that our Jenkins also builds some other stuff locally and it gets cached in the Maven repository). Anyway, it is fixed now. 20120203T213934: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: dscho says there was a real bug involving Maven artifact naming, that caused the build to fail on your Jenkins but not ours (due to the fact that our Jenkins also builds some other stuff locally and it gets cached in the Maven repository). Anyway, it is fixed now. 20120203T213958: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :So the CIS served its purpose and caught a bug! :-) 20120203T213958: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: So the CIS served its purpose and caught a bug! :-) 20120203T214008: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :YES!!!111 20120203T214008: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: YES!!!111 20120203T214128: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I still remember about our conversation re: more buildhosts / Windows build slave, by the way, but now that I've got a full-time position it became even harder for me to get any work done at all 20120203T214128: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: I still remember about our conversation re: more buildhosts / Windows build slave, by the way, but now that I've got a full-time position it became even harder for me to get any work done at all 20120203T214158: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: dscho: I imagine you guys are not going to BrainScaleS CodeJam? 20120203T214158: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: ctrueden: dscho: I imagine you guys are not going to BrainScaleS CodeJam? 20120203T214219: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I might try to make some time to get back to it there... 20120203T214219: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: I might try to make some time to get back to it there... 20120203T220411: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Oooh, code jam... sounds fun. But no. Major upcoming meetings for me include: 20120203T220411: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Oooh, code jam... sounds fun. But no. Major upcoming meetings for me include: 20120203T220413: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :http://www.biomedicalimaging.org/index.php/programme/opensourceworkshops/2-articles/54-open-source-workshops-bioimage-analisys 20120203T220413: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: http://www.biomedicalimaging.org/index.php/programme/opensourceworkshops/2-articles/54-open-source-workshops-bioimage-analisys 20120203T220426: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Well, I guess this is a better link: http://bigwww.epfl.ch/eurobioimaging/ 20120203T220426: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Well, I guess this is a better link: http://bigwww.epfl.ch/eurobioimaging/ 20120203T220447: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And: http://imagejconf.tudor.lu/ 20120203T220447: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: And: http://imagejconf.tudor.lu/ 20120203T220508: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And maybe ASCB in December. 20120203T220508: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: And maybe ASCB in December. 20120203T220531: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Obviously, it's pretty ImageJ-centric. 20120203T220531: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Obviously, it's pretty ImageJ-centric. 20120203T220928: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Sorry for being inattentive... ;-) 20120203T220928: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Sorry for being inattentive... ;-) 20120203T221133: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: yep, the problem were the snapshot builds. They were properly downloaded into ~/.m2/repositories/**/* by Maven on our Jenkins, but not on your Jenkins setup. There, MiniMaven had to get it right, and it did not for some time. Now it does. 20120203T221133: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: yep, the problem were the snapshot builds. They were properly downloaded into ~/.m2/repositories/**/* by Maven on our Jenkins, but not on your Jenkins setup. There, MiniMaven had to get it right, and it did not for some time. Now it does. 20120203T221235: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: well, I guess I don't have maven installed in the first place, so... ;-) 20120203T221235: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: well, I guess I don't have maven installed in the first place, so... ;-) 20120203T221400: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: The idea is that Fiji is supposed to build completely without Maven. It has a very small subset of Maven's functionality called "MiniMaven" that is part of Fiji's build system. 20120203T221400: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: The idea is that Fiji is supposed to build completely without Maven. It has a very small subset of Maven's functionality called "MiniMaven" that is part of Fiji's build system. 20120203T221420: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :In this way, it can build projects intended to be built using Maven (i.e., projects with a pom.xml), but more simply. 20120203T221420: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: In this way, it can build projects intended to be built using Maven (i.e., projects with a pom.xml), but more simply. 20120203T221444: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :In short, you can install Maven or not on the box, and it won't affect whether Fiji build succeeds. 20120203T221444: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: In short, you can install Maven or not on the box, and it won't affect whether Fiji build succeeds. 20120203T221501: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It's also much faster ;-) 20120203T221501: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: It's also much faster ;-) 20120203T221506: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And much smaller ;-) 20120203T221506: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: And much smaller ;-) 20120203T221521: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :But the idea is once you want to do something complicated, you use real Maven. 20120203T221521: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: But the idea is once you want to do something complicated, you use real Maven. 20120203T221526: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: I see, ok, this is what I expected, in fact the BrainScaleS workshop is also pretty much focused on simulation people, even though it bear such a generic name 20120203T221526: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: ctrueden: I see, ok, this is what I expected, in fact the BrainScaleS workshop is also pretty much focused on simulation people, even though it bear such a generic name 20120203T221607: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :ctrueden: dscho: I see, you are finally abandoning this fake insanity :-) 20120203T221607: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: ctrueden: dscho: I see, you are finally abandoning this fake insanity :-) 20120203T221813: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I used Maven only once, in fact, I needed it to test my patches for Jenkins before I submit the pull request. I was quite impressed by how terribly complicated it looks like 20120203T221813: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: I used Maven only once, in fact, I needed it to test my patches for Jenkins before I submit the pull request. I was quite impressed by how terribly complicated it looks like 20120203T221843: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :recently I had stumbled upon gradle and this looked pretty hot to me 20120203T221843: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: recently I had stumbled upon gradle and this looked pretty hot to me 20120203T221904: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :anyway, I don't even know Java, so... ;-) 20120203T221904: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: anyway, I don't even know Java, so... ;-) 20120203T222620: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: well, Fake is not an insanity. 20120203T222620: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: well, Fake is not an insanity. 20120203T222626: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :At least if you understand the motivation. 20120203T222626: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: At least if you understand the motivation. 20120203T222637: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: I dont :-) 20120203T222637: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: I dont :-) 20120203T222659: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I had a little idea that you did not when you called it insanity ;-) 20120203T222659: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: I had a little idea that you did not when you called it insanity ;-) 20120203T222820: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: I like make, so to me everything that looks like if it could have been replaced with beautiful Makefiles feels like insanity 20120203T222820: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: I like make, so to me everything that looks like if it could have been replaced with beautiful Makefiles feels like insanity 20120203T222924: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: but I can certainly admit that you might have had your reasons... 20120203T222924: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: but I can certainly admit that you might have had your reasons... 20120203T223127: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: unfortunately I do not have the time to indulge in a lengthy discussion right now, otherwise I would challenge you to support that "beautiful" in your statement, given the requirements I had for Fake (as Fiji Build was formerly known). 20120203T223127: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: unfortunately I do not have the time to indulge in a lengthy discussion right now, otherwise I would challenge you to support that "beautiful" in your statement, given the requirements I had for Fake (as Fiji Build was formerly known). 20120203T223153: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :zaytsev: just to put things into context: I can read and write Makefiles beyond $(shell ...) and $(patsubst ...). 20120203T223153: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: zaytsev: just to put things into context: I can read and write Makefiles beyond $(shell ...) and $(patsubst ...). 20120203T223213: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :(Which are GNU Make extensions if memory serves me right) 20120203T223213: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: (Which are GNU Make extensions if memory serves me right) 20120203T223248: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :indeed they are 20120203T223248: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: indeed they are 20120203T223358: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And their "beauty", uhm, lies in the eye of the beerholder. 20120203T223358: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: And their "beauty", uhm, lies in the eye of the beerholder. 20120203T223502: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: just to put things into context: I maintain autotools build systems and am actually enjoying it 20120203T223502: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: just to put things into context: I maintain autotools build systems and am actually enjoying it 20120203T223515: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :OMG ;-) 20120203T223515: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: OMG ;-) 20120203T223747: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho: anyways, I'd also love a healthy build system discussions, but I'm too short of time ATM ;-/ it's 23:37 already and I guess a couple more emails and I should probably leave the office... 20120203T223747: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: dscho: anyways, I'd also love a healthy build system discussions, but I'm too short of time ATM ;-/ it's 23:37 already and I guess a couple more emails and I should probably leave the office... 20120203T223836: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Heh. 20120203T223836: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Heh. 20120203T223854: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :We can also discuss the virtues of vi versus emacs another time if you want :-P 20120203T223854: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: We can also discuss the virtues of vi versus emacs another time if you want :-P 20120203T223916: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :oh, right, I'm playing for vim, ok ;-) ? 20120203T223916: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: oh, right, I'm playing for vim, ok ;-) ? 20120203T223940: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I think we are all on the vim team here. So that one's a no go. What about politics? ;-) 20120203T223940: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: I think we are all on the vim team here. So that one's a no go. What about politics? ;-) 20120203T224003: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I am a vim hater. 20120203T224003: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: I am a vim hater. 20120203T224009: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Although I use it all the time. 20120203T224009: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Although I use it all the time. 20120203T224009: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Oh, I didn't know that! 20120203T224009: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Oh, I didn't know that! 20120203T224016: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :And I am a firm Santorum fan. 20120203T224016: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: And I am a firm Santorum fan. 20120203T224020: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :If only for fun's sake. 20120203T224020: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: If only for fun's sake. 20120203T224022: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Sure you are. 20120203T224022: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Sure you are. 20120203T224024: *: <== :zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :and just to have the headstart: http://applidium.com/en/applications/vim/ 20120203T224024: zaytsev!~zaytsev@unaffiliated/zaytsev: and just to have the headstart: http://applidium.com/en/applications/vim/ 20120203T224037: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :No headstart. That would be no fun. 20120203T224037: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: No headstart. That would be no fun. 20120203T224053: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :BTW Sync Windows is uploaded. 20120203T224053: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: BTW Sync Windows is uploaded. 20120203T224058: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :It now works with Hyperstacks. 20120203T224058: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: It now works with Hyperstacks. 20120203T224102: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :dscho's favorite text editor: http://fiji.sc/wiki/index.php/Script_Editor 20120203T224102: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: dscho's favorite text editor: http://fiji.sc/wiki/index.php/Script_Editor 20120203T224115: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Glad to hear that Sync Windows is working now! 20120203T224115: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Glad to hear that Sync Windows is working now! 20120203T224123: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Will you reply back on that thread, or shall I? 20120203T224123: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Will you reply back on that thread, or shall I? 20120203T224227: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :If you would be so good? 20120203T224227: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: If you would be so good? 20120203T224232: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :No problem. 20120203T224232: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: No problem. 20120203T224239: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Testing first thought. ;-) 20120203T224239: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Testing first thought. ;-) 20120203T224241: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :s/thought/though/ 20120203T224241: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: s/thought/though/ 20120203T224252: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :I'd like to have lunch and read a couple of news while doing so (is it too late to have lunch at a quarter to 5?) 20120203T224252: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: I'd like to have lunch and read a couple of news while doing so (is it too late to have lunch at a quarter to 5?) 20120203T224304: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Sure, do that. I tested my preferred actions only... 20120203T224304: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: Sure, do that. I tested my preferred actions only... 20120203T225302: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Email sent. 20120203T225302: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Email sent. 20120203T225312: *: <== :dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :thx 20120203T225312: dscho!~gene099@dyn-144-92-48-243.microscopy.wisc.edu: thx 20120203T231438: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu PRIVMSG #fiji-devel :Good night all. 20120203T231438: ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu: Good night all. 20120203T231448: *: <== :ctrueden!~ctrueden@dyn-144-92-48-222.microscopy.wisc.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving.